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An introduction to the LR-300
The LR-300 is my weapon of choice and most, if not everyone, has used it and/or been killed by it.
It’s the most versatile weapon in the game. It can be used short, medium, and long range if used properly. Depending on the map it can be used to dominate from most positions. It’s fast firing and equipable with both the laser and the silencer. Most people tend to favor the helmet over the silencer even though the silencer offers increased accuracy, no muzzle flash and decreased noise on the gun but it isn’t enough to warrant picking it over a helmet. The helmet is just too overpowered because theres only one hit location on the head and even if you shoot them in the face it’s still helmet. In the future I would like to see a helmet nerf or possible multiple hit locations on the head, like the neck and face because the helmet only covers the top and back of the head but in this game seems to completely cover even the face and neck.
Equipment to use
The most important item with the LR-300 in my opinion is the laser.
It does a great job at making a great weapon even better and no it’s not just a pretty little pointy dot, it actually affects the spread of the bullets and makes your shots more accurate.
The common setup that pros in this game use with this weapon is: LR-300, kevlar, helmet, laser. Theres a couple other variations like grabbing nades/medkit/silencer instead of helmet or laser.
How to shoot
People have problems with spaming an automatic including myself, sometimes you just lose concentration and you forget to do so and yet some people don’t even try to burst at all, thinking the more bullets I shoot the better I will be. Thats far from the truth. Spaming is a very terrible thing to do, not only does it decrease accuracy by shaking your crosshair but the spread of the bullets becomes worse and worse the longer you hold in the trigger. What I like to do is practice by trying to be able to count the number of shots i’m firing and if I can’t I consider it spam and try to slow down. Some like to actually burst 3-5 shots then let the gun calm and fire again and thats fine too but I prefer the other way. To show you how I shoot here’s a little video:
Where you should aim
Aiming automatics i’m sure has been discussed before but i’ll just give my opinion and what I like to do.
The spot I like to aim at is usually the middle of the shoulders. The further you are away the lower you should aim to counter recoil but you usually wanna keep the crosshair near the head for the deadlier shots. It’s funny sometimes though even the first bullet you fire are off most of the time, it seems sometimes leading shots infront and behind your target can get better hits.
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I’m grateful that someone was thoughtful enough to write this article, but I think the ‘nade might have exercised a little editorial quality control. This article isn’t written too well, provides no insight beyond a dozen similar threads on the yet forums, and peddles some disinformation concerning the silencer and “pro” loadouts… Why not edit submissions or ask for revisions to keep the quality and relevance high?
Note that this is mostly his opinion and what has worked with him in his many many years of experience. The title of the article also says “Introduction”
Great article. Very interesting. Looking forward to more
I think the tips are reasonable and thought out. I do agree that most people who use the lr spam it too often. I also agree that laser, kevlar, helmet, and lr are most common loadouts for this weapon.
I’ve always been told that the M4 is exactly the same as Lr (apart from sound). Is that true?
LR and M4 have the same spread after 30 bullets, but the M4’s first shots are more accurate than the LR’s first shots. Basicly, the LR spreads slowly and the M4 is more accurate in the beginning–after the first few shots it spreads faster than the LR.
I hope I explained that correctly =)
Can you proove this?
I’m searching everywhere for trusted data about the M4 and the LR300. I’ve been told that they are identically inside the game.
I heard it from a pro player, but that doesn’t mean the answer is correct. Therefore, I did some experimenting myself
I took an LR and a M4 in ut4_firingrange and investigated how the spread evolves when shooting on a bull’s-eye withouth adjusting your aim(so simply told, I aimed at the centre of each bull’s-eye and then shot 30 bullets in one go). I did this on a short-ranged and on a long-ranged bull’s-eye. Here are the results:
http://i38.tinypic.com/4g3mf5.jpg
R1, W1, R2…etc means Red 1, White 1…R1=the centre of the bull’s-eye, White 1 is the white circle around the centre and so on… As you can see, the M4 is more accurate in the first shots when comparing with the LR
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I’d like to see this test done with laser attached to both guns. BTW: good job, that was informative. I think I’m going to switch to m4 now.
It could be but I like lr better, because it seems more accurate.
It’s also important to consider that you can pick up dropped LR300 almost everywhere, so it is not necessary to carry a secondary weapon with you.
Yeah these are my opinions hopefully they will help someone.
Secondary is completely useless. An auto and a pistol should be more then enough to deal with anything and you can always pick them up from others during pubs, far far less secondarys in matches are ever seen they just suck in comparison.
I have to agree Hoody here. The idea that the silencer improves accuracy has long been disproved on the forums by the game developers themselves. Also, the introduction rambles on and digresses about the helmet and hit locations when it really should be setting up the article.
Given my criticisms, there are definitely some nice tips for beginners in this article. DragoonSlayer, I think you’re a great player, and you definitely have a lot of insight into gameplay strategies. I’d like to see more articles up about shooting individual weapons i.e. AK103, SR8, etc.
It’s trying to explain why so many use the helmet and that would be my guess. I’m not a great writer my appologies
@dragonslayer: how can u shoot that slow? its like semi automatic?!
Lr300 is a fast weapon and if u always shoot one time u dont need the fullp speed of it.
Then i would prefer to use AK then. It would be only just a little bit slower
omg grammar …. i am stoned
all you need is for one shot to hit the head or for two shots to hit the helmet and thats the speed i’d like to shoot but i do speed up a little quicker and still beable to count the shots
I also shoot like that but only at long distances. All you have to do is tap on the mouse button very fast. Tap tap tap tap. Give enough time to the crosshair to get back to it’s standard position and fire again. It’s easier to do it rather than describe it.
brilliant vid , text whatever … not.
maybe u r correct when u play on stable 125 on EVERY MAP with ANY amount of PLAYERS .
but its not possible to shoot only the correct way all the time while FPS DROPS block the fire key, slow your MOUSE MOVE and many others things thanks to low fps rate
I’m not sure what you are talking about. I get no more than 10fps drops at once. That only happens if I am running on high settings and I am in a server with lots of people.
time to upgrade maybe
?
I have an 8800gt
I have 7600gt 3200 amd currently 256 ram my fps are usually drop to 30 depending on the action and what map etc
I know that first hand. I still play with fps drops to 30 all the time. It effects not only your connection but what you mentioned.
it dan it actually says the silencer reduces spread in the game check it out lol
Really? Dragoon, can you send me a link? All the tests that I have suggested that the silencer has no effect on accuracy.
just load up a game and goto the weapon setup screen then highlight the silencer and read the description
That seems like a huge mistake by fs to leave that in and is that confirmed by 27
it’s not about me being right or you being wrong, its about me trusting the info the game devolper has given us in game. I saw the results of the firing range and silencer did seem to help a “little”, just like what the description said. It would also be strange for all those ol school players who does laser silencer and abandons the helmet just so what? the gun is quieter and there is no muzzle flash? I just want to hear the final answer from the game developer themselves and if they are going to fix it in 4.2.
Hahaha , look here: http://www.urbanterror.net/page.php?3
who is the lead programmer? Raedwulf. What does he say in the forum I linked you to in my other post? The silencer does not affect spread. Cool. That’s the evidence you wanted so I guess we’re on the same page now?
eh.. even he didn’t seem 100% sure about it as he said “I think”, meaning it wasn’t him who wrote the code but he did mention the fact that the spread is reduced by 1%, which maybe close to impossile to feel or see in the human eyes but as far as the screenshot results of many people, silencer did have an effect on the spread. We will see by 4.2 if they are going to completely remove that infro from the item description. Just way too many factors are unknown in this game as of this date, same goes for the “no hits” that we hear everyday on every server from everyone, is it really true that they are not getting hits or is their aim off? is it just for certain servers? then why do we hear no hits complaints on every server? or is it the spread/the inaccuracy of all weapons in general in UrT that makes the players feel like they are not getting any hits.
UrT = too many questions, not enough answers
OK – the silencer really does do nothing:
http://forums.urbanterror.net/topic/19051-silencer-and-spread/
Terrible article…
lol jk dragoon is the man… I agree nerf the overpowered adamantium helmet.
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Ola, what’s up amigos?
In first steps it’s very good if somebody supports you, so hope to meet friendly and helpful people here. Let me know if I can help you.
Thanks in advance and good luck!
actually this article PROVES that silencer does help reduce spreads a little. Look at the results and you will see less spreads when the silencer is put on
NO IT DOESN’T – you clearly haven’t read the whole thread. Even the author of the article admits his results might be a statistical quirk. Read what Delirium and Opium say in that thread… I have utmost respect for Delirium’s opinion as he knows a lot about the workings of UrT.
It need not be a lie, lots of people work on this game. Perhaps at one point it did affect spread, and no-one has updated the description. These things happen, even in so-called “professional” games. I have asked Delirium to send me the code evidence. Also, in that same thread, Raedwulf (another respected guy) also states he has been through the code carefully and found nothing that affects the spread. Maybe you should at least consider the possibility that you are wrong?
I don’t see anywhere that Delrium actually shows the “code” hes reffering to, and why the game depevloper would write a LIE in the silencer description for 10 years